Thursday, February 4, 2010

Rational Christians: what motive would your god have to give people false bible stories that cloud perception?

This is what’s happening with Christians who have a too literal interpretation of the bible in today’s world, isn’t it? The stories that your god allegedly inspired people to write in the bible are clouding their perception and making it difficult for them to judge fact from fiction. Your god did this to them. He was like a parent who deliberately told their children stuff that was not true and now that the children have grown up, they’re reluctant to behold the truth because knowing the truth means that they have to admit their parents lied to them.





But maybe your god had a motive for doing this to people; maybe there is some potential benefit that I can’t see and that can arise from perceiving the world with clouded judgment which arises from having a too literal interpretation of the bible?Rational Christians: what motive would your god have to give people false bible stories that cloud perception?
So you mean that humans didn't originate from a pile of dirt and a rib, the Earth wasn't made in 6 days, there wasn't a man who gathered two of all the species on an arc to survive a great flood, so on and so forth? You've just rocked my world.Rational Christians: what motive would your god have to give people false bible stories that cloud perception?
Literal interpretation of the Bible is a very modern invention. Traditionally, Catholics, Lutherans, Anglicans (well most Anglicans), and the Eastern Orthodoxy all reject literal interpretation. Im guessing you knew this though.





Frankly, I don't understand how someone can say that the Bible should be taken literally without reading it in Hebrew and Greek. But thats one of the many reasons why I am Catholic.
Even if God channeled the Bbl directly to ppl , the humans would screw it up, get half of it wrong, and add their own opinions,not to mention translation and retelling losses and distortions.
Then again, maybe the stories are all true and God is real. So then Christians would be the only ones with the right perspective, and doubters would be reluctant to behold the truth.
In answer to your first question, I have never sought for an motive, nor was it an questionfor me. For we have a choice to do or not,
Because you're assuming God wrote the bible - He didn't, human beings did. As far as these people being ';inspired'; well, that's a very vague term. Our own psyches ';inspire'; us.
And people who admit this give up religion eventually.
rational Christians? lol
I like you Desiree
None. That's how we know the Bible is true.
1) Rational Christians: what motive would your god have to give people false bible stories that cloud perception?





I can't think of any. I'll bet that you can't, either.








2) This is what’s happening with Christians who have a too literal interpretation of the bible in today’s world, isn’t it?





No - that does not describe the same situation at all.








3) The stories that your god allegedly inspired people to write in the bible are clouding their perception and making it difficult for them to judge fact from fiction.





Who told you so, and why did you believe them? It seems to me that you are naively adopting a belief that has no evidence to support it. It certainly is an odd religion that you have.








4) Your god did this to them. He was like a parent who deliberately told their children stuff that was not true and now that the children have grown up, they’re reluctant to behold the truth because knowing the truth means that they have to admit their parents lied to them.





Ummm...no. But please feel free to offer evidence to support **your** ';stuff that was not true';...








Jim, http://www.christianwebprogramming.com/b…
if God didn't say what He meant, then why didn't He mean what He said? isn't God able to do that?





you're a fool and im willing to call you on it. you say i am irrational, though i accept the belief in God on a rational premise, that He is able, even able to perform miracles in the ancient past... do you think you're the first to discount them? the very people following Jesus had their fill of miracles yet when He began speaking of Lordship and servitude they left Him by the droves. God is able, nothing is too hard for Him, the universe dripped from His fingers and nations were formed from His breath, they'll be judged by the same. He is even able to pass a perfect and viable promise through the hands of sinful mankind, though they trash it, they mock it, they ridicule it to near death and even ignore it. but God made a promise, His day is coming and when He speaks who will stand up and call Him a liar?





';We have also a MORE SURE (than their eyewitness testimony) word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:


KNOWING this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.








don't try to say God's word doesn't mean what it says, it is it's own interpretation. don't make up something it isn't saying, it isn't allegorical nor symbolic - solely. every miraculous event became a parable of wisdom, and every parable is a miracle of understanding. the way one must read the Bible is to ask what it meant then, what it means to me personally and how do i apply it? and in that threefold cord you have the Spirit of God speaking a more sure word, the word that transcends human thought and human flaw and human teaching and human misunderstanding, but pierces joint and marrow, dividing the soul and establishing in the heart.

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